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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::::Good, so you admit then it is Duke Braunschweig. 大公 is Grand Duke, therefore 公 is Duke. Done. End of Discussion. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 19:56, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::::Good, so you admit then it is Duke Braunschweig. 大公 is Grand Duke, therefore 公 is Duke. Done. End of Discussion. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 19:56, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>WalkerEmphttps://gineipaedia.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nobility&diff=36472&oldid=prevIracundus at 21:02, 26 November 20212021-11-26T21:02:40Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::: As you can see, whether Non-Germanic or Germanic. 侯爵 is still one level below 公爵 (Duke). [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 15:35, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::: As you can see, whether Non-Germanic or Germanic. 侯爵 is still one level below 公爵 (Duke). [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 15:35, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::::Good, so you admit then it is Duke Braunschweig. Done. End of Discussion. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 19:56, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::::Good, so you admit then it is Duke Braunschweig<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. 大公 is Grand Duke, therefore 公 is Duke</ins>. Done. End of Discussion. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 19:56, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::: As you can see, whether Non-Germanic or Germanic. 侯爵 is still one level below 公爵 (Duke). [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 15:35, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::: As you can see, whether Non-Germanic or Germanic. 侯爵 is still one level below 公爵 (Duke). [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 15:35, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::::Good, so you admit then it is Duke Braunschweig. Done. End of Discussion. 19:56, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::::Good, so you admit then it is Duke Braunschweig. Done. End of Discussion. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] </ins>19:56, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::: As you can see, whether Non-Germanic or Germanic. 侯爵 is still one level below 公爵 (Duke). [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 15:35, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::: As you can see, whether Non-Germanic or Germanic. 侯爵 is still one level below 公爵 (Duke). [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 15:35, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::::侯爵 translates as Marquis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess). Gräfin or Graf translates as 伯爵 in both Chinese and Japanese systems or Count (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count) which is a middling rank below 侯, which has always historically in Asia been a high rank, 2nd only to Duke. Littenheim's rivalry and resentment towards Braunschweig is due to being 2nd highest noble in the Empire, not by being some mediocre middle rank noble . That is also part of the reason why Braunschweig and Flegel resent Reinhard and his sister. They resent them being granted what in their view is a ridiculously high rank, i.e. the 2nd highest. That is lost if it is 伯爵. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 22:00, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::::侯爵 translates as Marquis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess). Gräfin or Graf translates as 伯爵 in both Chinese and Japanese systems or Count (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count) which is a middling rank below 侯, which has always historically in Asia been a high rank, 2nd only to Duke. Littenheim's rivalry and resentment towards Braunschweig is due to being 2nd highest noble in the Empire, not by being some mediocre middle rank noble . That is also part of the reason why Braunschweig and Flegel resent Reinhard and his sister. They resent them being granted what in their view is a ridiculously high rank, i.e. the 2nd highest. That is lost if it is 伯爵. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 22:00, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>WalkerEmphttps://gineipaedia.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nobility&diff=36468&oldid=prevIracundus: /* Imperial noble ranks */2021-11-25T22:04:31Z<p><span class="autocomment">Imperial noble ranks</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::: Back to the main topic, you keep ignoring the importiant points and keep pressing you own assumption about your Chinese things, which lack of ORIGINAL SOURCE. You avoided mention about the fact that "Fürst" has been translated "侯爵" and "Prince", and ingnoring the fact that Annerose's title is written "Gräfin" in Katanaka. I don't mind if you will keep proposing about the Chinese, but at least say something about those facts. [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 13:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::: Back to the main topic, you keep ignoring the importiant points and keep pressing you own assumption about your Chinese things, which lack of ORIGINAL SOURCE. You avoided mention about the fact that "Fürst" has been translated "侯爵" and "Prince", and ingnoring the fact that Annerose's title is written "Gräfin" in Katanaka. I don't mind if you will keep proposing about the Chinese, but at least say something about those facts. [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 13:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::::侯爵 translates as Marquis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess). Gräfin or Graf translates as 伯爵 in both Chinese and Japanese systems or Count (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count) which is a middling rank below 侯, which has always historically in Asia been a high rank, 2nd only to Duke. Littenheim's rivalry and resentment towards Braunschweig is due to being 2nd highest noble in the Empire, not by being some mediocre middle rank noble . That is also part of the reason why Braunschweig and Flegel resent Reinhard and his sister. They resent them being granted what in their view is a ridiculously high rank. That is lost if it is 伯爵. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 22:00, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::::侯爵 translates as Marquis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess). Gräfin or Graf translates as 伯爵 in both Chinese and Japanese systems or Count (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count) which is a middling rank below 侯, which has always historically in Asia been a high rank, 2nd only to Duke. Littenheim's rivalry and resentment towards Braunschweig is due to being 2nd highest noble in the Empire, not by being some mediocre middle rank noble . That is also part of the reason why Braunschweig and Flegel resent Reinhard and his sister. They resent them being granted what in their view is a ridiculously high rank<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, i.e. the 2nd highest</ins>. That is lost if it is 伯爵. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 22:00, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::: Back to the main topic, you keep ignoring the importiant points and keep pressing you own assumption about your Chinese things, which lack of ORIGINAL SOURCE. You avoided mention about the fact that "Fürst" has been translated "侯爵" and "Prince", and ingnoring the fact that Annerose's title is written "Gräfin" in Katanaka. I don't mind if you will keep proposing about the Chinese, but at least say something about those facts. [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 13:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::: Back to the main topic, you keep ignoring the importiant points and keep pressing you own assumption about your Chinese things, which lack of ORIGINAL SOURCE. You avoided mention about the fact that "Fürst" has been translated "侯爵" and "Prince", and ingnoring the fact that Annerose's title is written "Gräfin" in Katanaka. I don't mind if you will keep proposing about the Chinese, but at least say something about those facts. [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 13:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::It still shows that 公爵 is Duke which is what you tried to contest, which is wrong. Quibbling over Archduke vs Grand Duke is also pointless as the two terms are synonymous but Herbert is clearly titled as Grand Duke in the hard coded original subs so that is what it will remain. The current titles stand and that is final. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 19:49, 23 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::It still shows that 公爵 is Duke which is what you tried to contest, which is wrong. Quibbling over Archduke vs Grand Duke is also pointless as the two terms are synonymous but Herbert is clearly titled as Grand Duke in the hard coded original subs so that is what it will remain. The current titles stand and that is final. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 19:49, 23 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::: I'm not contesting anything about Grand Duke, this one is just my point of view. As you said, the original <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">wtore </del>Grand Duke, then it must be so.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::: I'm not contesting anything about Grand Duke, this one is just my point of view. As you said, the original <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">wrote </ins>Grand Duke, then it must be so.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::: Back to the main topic, you keep ignoring the importiant points and keep pressing you own assumption about your Chinese things, which lack of ORIGINAL SOURCE. You avoided mention about the fact that "Fürst" has been translated "侯爵" and "Prince", and ingnoring the fact that Annerose's title is written "Gräfin" in Katanaka. I don't mind if you will keep proposing about the Chinese, but at least say something about those facts. [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 13:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::: Back to the main topic, you keep ignoring the importiant points and keep pressing you own assumption about your Chinese things, which lack of ORIGINAL SOURCE. You avoided mention about the fact that "Fürst" has been translated "侯爵" and "Prince", and ingnoring the fact that Annerose's title is written "Gräfin" in Katanaka. I don't mind if you will keep proposing about the Chinese, but at least say something about those facts. [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 13:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Back to the main topic, you keep ignoring the importiant points and keep pressing you own assumption about your Chinese things, which lack of ORIGINAL SOURCE. You avoided mention about the fact that "Fürst" has been translated "侯爵" and "Prince", and ingnoring the fact that Annerose's title is written "Gräfin" in Katanaka. I don't mind if you will keep proposing about the Chinese, but at least say something about those facts. [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 13:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:::: </ins>Back to the main topic, you keep ignoring the importiant points and keep pressing you own assumption about your Chinese things, which lack of ORIGINAL SOURCE. You avoided mention about the fact that "Fürst" has been translated "侯爵" and "Prince", and ingnoring the fact that Annerose's title is written "Gräfin" in Katanaka. I don't mind if you will keep proposing about the Chinese, but at least say something about those facts. [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 13:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
</table>WalkerEmphttps://gineipaedia.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nobility&diff=36463&oldid=prevWalkerEmp at 13:32, 25 November 20212021-11-25T13:32:01Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::It still shows that 公爵 is Duke which is what you tried to contest, which is wrong. Quibbling over Archduke vs Grand Duke is also pointless as the two terms are synonymous but Herbert is clearly titled as Grand Duke in the hard coded original subs so that is what it will remain. The current titles stand and that is final. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 19:49, 23 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>::::It still shows that 公爵 is Duke which is what you tried to contest, which is wrong. Quibbling over Archduke vs Grand Duke is also pointless as the two terms are synonymous but Herbert is clearly titled as Grand Duke in the hard coded original subs so that is what it will remain. The current titles stand and that is final. [[User:Iracundus|Iracundus]] 19:49, 23 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::: <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">You </del>keep ignoring the importiant points and keep pressing you own assumption about your Chinese things, which lack of ORIGINAL SOURCE. You avoided mention about the fact that "Fürst" has been translated "侯爵" and "Prince", and ingnoring the fact that Annerose's title is written "Gräfin" in Katanaka. I don't mind if you will keep proposing about the Chinese, but at least say something about those facts. [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 13:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:::: <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">I'm not contesting anything about Grand Duke, this one is just my point of view. As you said, the original wtore Grand Duke, then it must be so.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Back to the main topic, you </ins>keep ignoring the importiant points and keep pressing you own assumption about your Chinese things, which lack of ORIGINAL SOURCE. You avoided mention about the fact that "Fürst" has been translated "侯爵" and "Prince", and ingnoring the fact that Annerose's title is written "Gräfin" in Katanaka. I don't mind if you will keep proposing about the Chinese, but at least say something about those facts. [[User:WalkerEmp|WalkerEmp]] 13:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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