Talk:Battle of Rantemario

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Infoboxes — also, names of battles

I've been thinking about battle pages in general terms for a while - I think they should have infoboxes like wikipedia does. There's almost always enough data in the show to fill them out pretty well. Vympel 14:15, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

If we can, that'd be great, since it would help us get lists out of the article and into the 'strength' column, such as the list of fleets from the Second Battle of Tiamat page, and rather conclusively lets one briefly glance to figure out the forces, commanders, and who won. I suppose the question is do we start assigning classifications to victories? Such as the 'Decisive Victory' category on Wikipedia, and the 'Tactical (X) Victory, Strategic (Y) Victory'. The one092001 15:46, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree that it's a good idea, and agree that we should put as much information in there as we can possibly 'standardise' (including the outcome). If you guys want to put together a list of all of the fields that should be present in such an infobox, i can quickly do up a template and some documentation.

Also, since i've got you — i can't remember where i posted it, but at one point i had enquired about what our policy should be regarding the names of battles. I have always felt we should use or emulate whatever names the official/licensed sources use, which typically (but not always) contain the word starzone or something at the end; Canary meanwhile had decided that starzone was redundant and removed it from all of our existing articles.

This has left me in somewhat of a dilemma, because the renaming of all of those articles has created a huge number of broken redirects, and i don't want to have the bot correct them until we sort this question out.

What do you guys reckon?  ♥ kine @ 23:28, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

I think "Starzone" is clunky and redundant myself. Now for battle infobox, looking at wikipedia I'd say date, location, result, commanders and leaders, strength, and casualties and losses, should be included. Now in terms of how to set up the results - I think we should play it by ear for now, see what feels right when we're playing with them. Vympel 08:58, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree that Starzone is clunky and redundant. The infobox is good for describing the basic statistics, at least for those battles where we have complete stats. One thing however is the terms 'decisive victory' because for the war to drag on for 150 years, many victories despite being great ones such as 2nd Tiamat were not truly decisive as the war continued in a stalemate. In the FPA-Imperial War page, I have used either "major victory" "victory" and "minor victory" to denote various degrees of victory.

The other point that I think would be difficult to squeeze into an infobox is the flagship of each officer. We have many flagship articles but I think few links to them for new readers that may be unfamiliar with what flagship each character (especially more minor ones) might have had. Iracundus 09:33, 30 March 2012 (UTC)