Talk:Dominion of Fezzan

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Sovereign debt

Thinking about the Alliance and its huge sovereign debt, wouldn't the people of Fezzan (and any corporations) have taken massive losses with the dissolution of the Alliance? In all likelihood, Reinhard's Empire would have declared null and void any Alliance bonds, which has been the historical precedent for a defeated conquered power. If private institutions and individuals have to write off big losses, then wouldn't that risk precipitating a recession or even depression? Iracundus 13:35, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, as much as I enjoy the series, and as much as I like some aspects of the Imperial side - and I do - the story was clearly meant to give the imperials under Reinhard such advantages as to demand a suspension of disbelief. This is just one inconsistency among many, sadly. Again, I love the show immensely, but the fact that Reinhard's imperials were clearly set up with everything they needed to win... kinda grated at several points. I wouldn't have minded Reinhard getting the best out of Yang or the Alliance by the end, but aside from Vermillion - which ended in another suspension of disbelief (Yang stopped the potential crippling move to the invasion to read a message? In the middle of a do-or-die battle? Ugh.) - he didn't really have much trouble. I'd have preferred that he be in as many tight spots as Yang, and used his genius to get out of them. That made Yang interesting. Smooth sailing made Reinhard a bit stale at times. -FPA Forever

Thus your user name, i suppose :)  ♥ kine @ 20:34, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I would imagine the message at Vermilion to have been using the highest urgency and security protocols so as to require immediate reading. However ultimately after Amritsar, the only thing that could have saved the Alliance would have been refusing to take in the Goldenbaum noble refugees and negotiating a peace treating, or Yang finishing off Reinhard at Vermilion. That would only really have prolonged the old corrupt status quo of the Alliance and Empire though. Reinhard's subordinates would have competed among themselves and the remnants of the Goldenbaum nobility would have likely risen up again. The Alliance would still be in its dire economic and military state with a self-serving corrupt government. Yang might have bought another generation of time for the Alliance, or at worst prolonged the long war even longer through prolonging the Goldenbaum Empire as well. Iracundus 21:29, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I don't disagree with anything said here per se. But this also serves to prove that the deck was stacked very heavily in Reinhard's favor. After all, it might not have been so easy for Reinhard had Yang been a republican reformer. But the story has him self-effacing himself, and only coming into the spotlight when everything else has completely failed. Yang in the story, had he managed to push back the Imperials at Vermillion and after, might have served a few years more, but would have simply retired away from all the political and military problems, and certainly wouldn't have gone back to it. George Washington, this guy wasn't. Yang, in fact, actually gushed at how great Reinhard was, and how autocracy is better than democracy in many ways (having seen autocracy firsthand, I will bluntly say Yang had a very abstract idea of what he was talking about). In fact Yang rarely enumerated how democracy was better than autocracy. So everything seemed set up to bring Reinhard in the best possible light. That is what made it grating to me. Not Reinhard, Reinhard himself is great. Its how near-perfect his path was, how even his opposite all but vouched for him.

Heh. Yeah. Hence my name. Democracy forever! :)FPA Forever