Talk:Ajax class flagship

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Alright, here it is, the initial article. I added the kana for 'class' and 'flagship' in the Japanese box, following the Wikipedia tradition, feel free to remove if anyone feels its inappropriate. Not terribly sure what to do with the dimensions, weapon specs, or crew complement, since they vary between members of the class almost from ship to ship. Wasn't sure whether it should be left blank, have the 'generic' specs (of a middle-spec ship like Patroclus) inserted, or left as a range (as the side armaments are now). Also, as of yet, we have no actual confirmation that Bang-goo is of the class, but seeing as how it is clearly of the same generation, and even radical redesigns like Maurya and Krishna are of the same class, I felt it safe to leave the blanket statement intact. Will continue working on this article. The one092001 00:39, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

I've not abandoned this article, simply been very busy as of late. Will hopefully have more time this week, if not, in a few weeks my workload will definitely be lower. The one092001 06:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. All articles IMO are a constant work in progress. Vympel 04:40, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Looking for a suggestion on whether or not I should include a short blurb on the modifications done to the 'special' ships like Krishna, Maurya, and the others. Right now they only come up when mentioned in a broader discussion of engines and weapons. I was planning to add a list of known ships below in a separate section. The one092001 07:59, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Those ships are extreme modifications of the hull, but ultimately still share many common design characteristics. In the Databook they are still listed as members of the flagship series. If some ships experimented in long range guns, one in lighter construction and mobility, then Krishna and Bang-goo can be seen as experiments in size and sheer firepower. Iracundus 08:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, the information on Bang-goo still hasn't been uploaded aside from just basic specs, and from those specs, it's hard to tell what the major modifications are. Visually, she has a much-enlarged engine block that merges with the enlarged command section, but in terms of weapons, it's hard to tell where she deviates, since she has the standard 40 forward beam cannons. The missile launchers are mounted in the forward compartment so that's still no indication as to what exactly the rest of those modifications are for. Her broadside armament is either only one cannon more than Rio Grande per side, or just over half that if that's the total count (rather than per-side count). The one092001 20:56, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

That is because there are some discrepancies in the text with what is shown in the Gaiden. The actual specifics are not really mentioned other than it was meant as an offensive and defensive "balance", and was completed 1 month after Krishna. It had a refit in October 791 UC that fitted new warp stabilizers, which presumably would improve its warp capability or range. As for other technical detail, not much is really said other than it had a large shuttle hangar and used large ship launches so it had greater transfer ability to and from planets. If I had to speculate, and speculation is purely all it would be, Krishna was emphasizing primary guns at the expense of everything and even got rid of its fighter facilities (perhaps due to risk of having more explosive ordnance on board or perhaps for power issues or other issues). "Bang-goo" still retains those, and presumably the power saved by its smaller weapons section would be used in other things like mobility or shields or perhaps nothing at all if it was felt the guns on "Krishna" weren't such a good idea. After all, Airget lamh ended up having its fire rate limited by its insufficient power generation systems, and similarly with Rio Grande. Also, I wouldn't necessarily be so quick to conclude that all the missile launchers are solely in the forward area. Iracundus 23:08, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Survivors

Unclear if there are surviving ships of this class. There is the Rustam but its fate is unknown. Iracundus 13:52, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I guess any survivors would be destined to be scrapped though, if we take the precedent of the Treaty of Ba'alat. =( Glacierfairy 15:32, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Consider the precedent of the Triglav and Airget Iamh I highly suspect any surviving Ajax ships would have been high priority to be the first ones scrapped. They just didn't get round to Rio Grande or Diomedes yet. Hyperion and Masasoite might have survived by being lower priority due to being refurbished old ships. Iracundus 13:16, 4 February 2014 (UTC)