Talk:Imperial battleship (788 UC era)

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Episode 68 missiles

In Episode 68, when the Mittermeyer attacks the planetoid with the factory inside it (Lusiana or something off the top of my head) we see a closeup of three missile tubes. I had no idea to which ship they belonged, but given the shape of the hull, I think they must be from the main hull of the battleship - the reactangular forward hull moves back from the prow and then flares outward to join the rear hull in a manner unlike any other Imperial ship. Thoughts? Vympel 13:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Will need to examine a screenshot to be sure. I don't think the issue has ever been examined in detail before to the point of reaching a conclusion. Iracundus 13:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

The screenshot:- http://gineipaedia.com/wiki/File:Missilelauncher1.jpg Vympel 14:02, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Looks like a battleship hull to me. By comparison look at the shield flaring picture on the page, at the section aft of the crest and before reaching the 1st silver dome. The flaring of the hull looks similar. Iracundus 14:39, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Cool, then I'm not crazy. I'll make the edit soon, or you can add it. Vympel 12:31, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Just a general note, the references to "FPA" as a short form for the Free Planets Alliance will eventually go away - kine will have Rudolf von Goldenbot get rid of these in the near future - we both prefer that the Free Planets Alliance simply be called "Alliance" - it matches better with "Imperial" anyway. Vympel 02:58, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

The other issue is "Walküre" instead of Valkyrie, as mentioned on the Valkyrie talk page. Iracundus 13:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Cannon numbers

Perhaps a comment should be made in the main section about the discrepancies as there is animation evidence both for some battleships having guns in the lower 2 holes and also for some having reverse thrusters as described in the FFC. One example is the picture at ImperialWiki at http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wiki/index.php/Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes

I suppose the explanation that accommodates both is that some battleships have variant fittings. Iracundus 05:25, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I didn't even know Imperial Wiki *had* such an entry! Its an interesting discrepancy - especially because there seem to be two holes visible above the big apertures in the missile launching pic that could be thrusters (they're more in tune with the thrusters usual size, going by, say, Episode 71 (the shot where the mine impacts as the thruster is going off). Vympel 05:59, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Variant fittings would be a likely answer. Alternately, the apertures may simply contain both. We saw something similar to this in Episode 051, where we see the Sindur/Sindri fire a full spread of blue beams from the five port nacelle weapons (facing forward) and then fire the photon torpedo-ripoffs from both sets of nacelles only a few minutes later. Vympel 06:04, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

One last thing, central anime's old forum database was lost, but a new one has been put up. Heibi has confirmed that he's been given a DVD encode of Season 1 of the Gaiden and Spiral Labyrinth from Season 2, so we'll finally have some nice screenshots of those in the near future. Vympel 06:07, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

The DVD features also mention 6 neutron beam cannons as the main weapons like the FFC, so it appears that 6 could be the baseline model. In one of the DVD production sketches it also points to the ventral engine Valkyrie openings and there is a 24 just legible. Given the number of other sources pointing at 6 and 24 respectively, I find myself leaning towards documenting those as the standard and mentioning other numbers as variants. Iracundus 08:50, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

No problems, put it how you think best dude Vympel 11:58, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi to all. Maybe you already knows it, but around minute 12 in gaiden 4 eps 02- h264 - Central Anime (2a2bffc8) there is shot of a battleship launching a relatively big missile fron the underside.

Yup I'm aware. I didn't explicitly mention it yet because I wasn't sure if it was a seperate launcher, or if it could be considered part of the Macross-Missile-Massacre launchers of Episode 102. Vympel 00:17, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Can you show a picture of the scene you are talking about? Iracundus 01:37, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Its where the battleships of the Grimmelhausen Fleet are nuking the surface of Van-Fleet 4-2:-

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1879/launchframe1.jpg http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3600/launch2d.jpg http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1518/missilegaiden.jpgVympel 01:48, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh that. We can see the launch is from the 2nd machinery section on the forward aspect of the ventral engine. In episode 102, we see the missiles being launched from where the ventral engine joins the main hull. Therefore they are separate launchers. Iracundus 01:54, 7 January 2012 (UTC)