Talk:Free Planets Star Fleet
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Isn't that the official name of the Imperial Fleet? [[User:FPA Forever|FPA Forever]] | Isn't that the official name of the Imperial Fleet? [[User:FPA Forever|FPA Forever]] | ||
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| + | :Close, in the first episode (of the original DVDs, not the CA version) its "Die Reichsflotte". [[User:Vympel|Vympel]] 08:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
==Strategic Upper Hand?== | ==Strategic Upper Hand?== | ||
Revision as of 08:14, 6 January 2012
Foundation Year
Anybody has an idea of when the Star Fleet was founded? So far the best we can tell is that it was founded 'shortly' after the Alliance came into being as the Alliance Backbone Fleet (For some reason, that name makes me chuckle). I guess it might be logical to say that the Star Fleet would have been around in some form for a good century by The Battle of Dagon? Spaceship construction was likely kind of natural to people who had lived in spacecrafts and maintained them for over 50 years. FPA Forever
No specific date is given. From the Databook, it only had 8 battleships in the very early years, which was already likely a heavy commitment for a society just getting off the ground, likely motivated by the fear of Imperial pursuit just behind them. As time went on and the Empire was still absent, I would imagine the sense of immediate urgency would have receded allowing for more economic activities to come first. Iracundus 08:13, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Reichflotte
Isn't that the official name of the Imperial Fleet? FPA Forever
- Close, in the first episode (of the original DVDs, not the CA version) its "Die Reichsflotte". Vympel 08:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Strategic Upper Hand?
Not so sure about that statement of the Alliance having the upper hand. I always saw the the situation as stalemated with slide over to the Empire by the construction of Iserlohn Fortress. The Alliance was stuck on the defensive in a war of attrition that ultimately they could afford less than the Empire. Furthermore, it was a war which the Goldenbaum dynasty would never end as ideologically the Galactic Empire laid claim to being the sole government over all humanity and thus by definition the conflict was merely a rebellion and not a war with an external power, with whom there could be any treaties.
Also if one looks up the Battle of Schann-tau, which is referenced in the Gaiden, it suggests the frontline has flowed in the direction of the Alliance and/or the Empire has expanded as by the main series, Schann-tau is within the Empire and is a battle site in the Imperial Civil War.
Iracundus 04:35, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- True, but since the overall point of the Empire was to 'return' the Rebels to the Empire, and the Alliance's was to keep its sovereignty, the Alliance did have the strategic upper hand in the sense that it did keep the Empire pretty much out for many decades. FPA Forever
- Where can I get a translated version of the Encyclopedia?! It seems so utterly filled with interesting, in-universe goodies. FPA Forever O_o
- Unfortunately there is no translated version. You need to able to read Japanese or have a good command of Chinese characters/Japanese kanji + good deductive reasoning to piece together the pieces from context. There is more general technology stuff in there that I am slowly plugging away at, but even those can sometimes be lacking in detail (explained away by it being an in-universe civilian publication).
- As for the original topic of strategic upper hand, true the Alliance did defeat each previous major Imperial invasion, but that was the pattern the war was effectively stuck at. The Alliance appeared never to have sufficient resources to take the fight to the enemy in the past, and each Imperial defeat never hurt the Empire sufficiently to threaten the actual existence of the Empire. Bruce Ashbey's decision to devote more resources to the Star Fleet instead of an Alliance fortress in hindsight was a mistake given how the Alliance needed a breather from the recurrent invasions to recover its strength, not a further ongoing burden on its increasingly strained economy and human resources. An Alliance fortress might have bought enough time for the Alliance to do so and then build up its Star Fleet. For its part, the Galactic Empire appeared plagued with the opposite problem, of building fortress bases all over its territory. Iracundus 05:46, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'll stay out of the strategy discussion, but fyi there are scans of the Encyclopaedia online, and there are also copies on eBay (they go for about 40$). All Japanese, of course, but if you know how to use online tools you might get some use out of it. That's what i've been doing whenever i've needed to look up stuff in it (i can read kana, but not kanji — aside from some of the really basic and/or common ones).
- All of the data as far as i can tell is pulled from canon somehow (mostly taken from the anime, with gaps filled in from novel/manga information), so it's not really anything 'new'. But it's definitely a lot easier to find information about a character or whatever by looking it up in there than trying to read through the novel. ♥ kine @ 10:54, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Where can I find these online Encyclopaedia scans? FPA Forever
- Should be a link on the forum somewhere (see main page) ♥ kine @ 23:53, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
