Talk:Free Planets Alliance

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Population

How did the FPA manage to get from 160,000 citizens to 1,500,000,000 in 113 years?!? — 174.91.245.99

I would imagine through major financial incentives for having children. Iracundus 09:12, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

There are a lot of population questions in the series. As far as that particular number, though, i'm not sure where it even comes from. I've just grepped for '1500000000', '1,500,000,000', and '1.5 billion' in CA's subtitle files (for the main OVA), and i got zero results. I've also checked episode 040, and i don't see it mentioned there either. So it's very possible that the number we have is not even correct.

(FWIW though, that is an extraordinary number. It would be something like an 8.44% population growth rate, which is double the highest population growth rate on Earth. If that number really is taken from the series, it's possible someone just did a slight miscalculation: 1.5 million would be about a 2% growth rate, which is what the global rate was in the 1960s, so maybe they accidentally multiplied that by 1000.)

If someone could find a citation for that number, that would be helpful!  ♥ kine @ 09:33, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, there is one number we know for the FPA in UC 640: The soldiers in the FPA Fleet. Its stated in some documents that it was 2,500,000. Now, this is for the 25,000 ships that Lin Pao led, which is fairly certainly every single warship they had - I don't see the FPA being able to afford not sending everything they had back then. Added to that, Admiral Birolinen commanded the supply fleet, and it stands to reason there'd be at least a token military back on Heinessen to make the basic military services work. All in all, its hard to see the military of the time as less than 3 million. These are the values I get when I calculate given percentages by UC 640.

1% - 492,000 (Impossible given the 2.5+ military of the time, and the fact that that era was supposed to be an incredible golden age rivalling the golden age of the Galactic Federation.

2% - 1,282,000 (Same as the 1%)

3% - 4,373,000 (This is a very good growth rate, maybe not the awesome growth the series and novels allude to. Besides, no way the military is 60% or more of the population).

4% - 13,430,000 (Very high growth rate, still hard to believe the military would be such a HUGE chunk of the population (1 soldier in 5 total people, including kids and elders).

5% - 39,371,000 (Pretty much the highest value we got on our dear Earth. Military no less than 7% of the population. BARELY possible if one called up volunteers from everywhere and strained every facet of society to maintain the fleet).

6% - 115,191,000 (Highest value I can see for myself. Military is 2.5% of the population. Possible if they were called up partly as militia to man their carefully-stockpiled warships.)

7% - 339,938,000 (Hard to see this growth rate. Military is clearly possible here.)

8% - 931,658,000 (No way. Just... no way)

8.5% - 1,605,469,000.

So its impossible in my mind that the FPA, even with the best civil aid and endowments, could sustain a 8% to 8.5% growth rate. The best they can come up in my mins would be 5% to 6.5% (40 million to 187 million people).

I have a hard time seeing the population as more than 150 million people by UC 640. Thus, its possible the number was erroneously multiplied by 10.

I agree it is unlikely  ♥ kine @ 18:55, 10 December 2011 (UTC)