User talk:FPA Forever

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Hey there, just wanted to say welcome, and thanks in advance for your contributions. If you have any questions, feel free to leave a message on my talk page (or any other talk page, for that matter) :)  ♥ kine @ 00:42, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Ideal to Fight For story

As some of you know, I'm doing an Alliance-centric story. I want to make it a somewhat more realistic story, where the Alliance isn't entirely doomed and where there are some people still trying to save it. However, I also don't want the characters to behave outside of their basic personality. Yang, at the core, should still be Yang, Attenborough should still be Attenborough, etc. So if I seem to be going the wrong way with a character, please tell me, that'd be a great help. FPA Forever

Also, I'm really open to ideas about what should happen in later chapters. Just remember, this'll be an Alliance story, the Empire will remain a more nebulous (but very dangerous) enemy and won't be detailled as much. The Empire-centric story will be AFTER this one is done. :)

Well how would you generally like it to end? For example I have ideas for an Alliance victory or Imperial victory or a continued stalemate. Which one are you looking for? Strayor 03:44, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

I was more going for Yang managing to force a situation which would allow the Alliance breathing room and time to recover. What did you have in mind for an Alliance Victory and Stalemate? (Imperial Victory will come in the Imperial-centric story)

It depends on where you think further divergences will go as a result of the existing changes. Will lesser Alliance losses in their invasion mean there is less discontent within the military for a coup? Or will it mean a coup has greater supporters and ends up with greater military forces? If there is no coup for Reinhard to instigate, then there is the risk of the Alliance intervening in any Imperial civil war, even if it is as simple as snatching some systems. It would risk turning into a 3 way war. If the Alliance intervenes by choosing sides in the Imperial civil war, who do they choose? Do they choose one of the high nobles and run into the same cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy of when they canonically aided the Goldenbaum government in exile? Would Yang end up aiding the noble faction if that is what the Alliance government chooses? If the Alliance sides with Reinhard, then it would truly be a cakewalk all over the nobles. Finally there is what is Fezzan doing during all this? Do they continue as they canonically did with a new plan of aiming to overthrow the balance of power? Or do they adhere to the old Terraist plan of prolonging the war by ensuring no side gains too much advantage? Many questions and possibilities and it depends on where you want the story to go. Iracundus 08:37, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

As for the other fleet commanders who in this story survived the invasion, they'll take their cue mostly from Bucock. Yes, Yang was by far the most effective in combat, but it was Bucock who took command and crafted a unified front which allowed 60% of the Combined Fleet to survive (defeated, damaged, but it survived). Bucock is by no means a happy camper, but he's by no means intending to allow a coup. Instead, I see Reinhard sending Lynch as a decoy, and in this case sending other people to sabotage, derail, paraluze aspects of the Alliance Fleet to keep its involvement to a minimal level. The Alliance will be too concerned about these chronic problems to send massive forces against the Empire, even though its a far better moment than the initial invasion to actually send forces in.

However, Bucock being Bucock, he'll manage to use Yang's status as a hero and his own good reputation to allow Yang's Iserlohn Fleet - 15,000 ships - to 'harrass, reduce and/or damage Imperial efforts to shorten the Imperial Civil War'. With aid from the Alliance Intelligence Division (with Baghdash being the Intelligence representative sent), Yang will have only his fleet and Iserlohn's ressources, but he'll also be able to fully use these ressources to be as much a pain in the ass to the Imperial Forces fighting the war. Obviously, and rightly, Yang will guess that Reinhard's forces will win in the end, so he'll focus his efforts (sabotage, strategic strikes against supply chains, and even taking out three small rearguard garrison fleets) on the Lohengramm Faction.

My take? Reinhard WILL win the Civil War. I never doubted that outcome, because although I see Merkatz and Fahrenheit using Yang's strikes to his advantage, the nobles will eventually screw things up badly enough that Lohengramm's generally more competent and experienced forces will win the day. However, the Imperial Civil War will be quite a bit longer due to Yang's carefully chosen strikes. My question is, how much should it be slowed. How much would Yang's efforts lengthen the Imperial Civil War?

Things that I know will happen so far in my story: 1) Dwight Greenhill, already reluctant in the OTL, doesn't join the disgruntled officers. 2) The Fleet Commanders who went on the Imperial Invasion will stick to the government, but will be cynical about future orders. 3) Lynch is still released and sent to make trouble. 4) Rebello and Lewi split from their party with several others and create their own political faction, which is centrist compared to the Right-Wing 'Trunicht Faction' and the more Left-Wing 'Peace Party'. 5) The Imperial side of things is barely altered, so the Imperial Civil War is inevitable. So what do you think? FPA Forever

If Dwight Greenhill doesn't join the coup, then I don't see the coup getting as far as it did as it was due to his position that allowed coup forces to be positioned in strategic places to take control under the guise of training exercises. The biggest question then that remains is if the coup is short or non-existent, then what does the Alliance government do in response to the death of Friedrich IV, and the ensuing Imperial civil war. Iracundus 07:06, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

As for what constitutes "Alliance victory" or "stalemate"? I think a sustainable stalemate would require Fezzan to revert to maintaining the balance of power as otherwise Alliance society cannot sustain even the old kind of prolonged conflict with the Goldenbaum dynasty let alone the high losses it suffers in any form of conflict with Reinhard. An alternative stalemate would be Reinhard enacting his plan B of carving up Fezzan with the Alliance if the Alliance rejected Erwin Joseph seeking asylum. The main benefit to the Alliance would be the relief of its crushing debt burden, and then perhaps some sort of standoff against Reinhard. Alliance victory is much harder to quantify I think because realistically the exhausted Alliance has no hope of successfully invading or integrating the entirety of the Empire. A prolonged inconclusive Imperial civil war might end up giving the Alliance a breather, or alternatively if one of the high nobles ended up winning the civil war and became Kaiser, the restoration of mostly incompetent nobles to positions of military power might mean they dash themselves unsuccessfully against the Alliance-held Iserlohn Fortress. The main victory I see for the Alliance is the opportunity for internal reform and rejuvenation, rather than outward military expansion. Iracundus 02:03, 3 May 2014 (UTC) FPA Forever