Category talk:Images from Fleet File Collections

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Hey, nice one! Did you strip these from that .zip file? Well done. Note the FFC1R booklet is on the forum (Canary posted it in IIRC the resources section)- it should be useful for the Tannhauser, Grendel and Morholt. And this reminded me I still need to scan the boxes. And I'll also look at scanning the just released FFC10 booklet so you can do the same thing for it. Vympel 04:18, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh, forgot about that 1R upload. Got them now, i think that covers all of the named ones. (Obviously i've not uploaded any of the generic ship-type ones, or the ones that have two ships in one picture. I'll get around to those some other time.) The 1-9 ones were from that file you found on MyAnimeList i believe  ♥ kine @ 05:05, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Saw what you did with the ship entries, I think its a good idea to add the image, but why call it "apocrypha"? Apocrypha means (going by wikipedia here) "hidden", "esoteric", "spurious", "of questionable authenticity". What about them is apocryphal? Vympel 00:18, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Not sure if you're asking why i consider it apocrypha or if you're asking more about the meaning and significance of the classification, so i'm sorry if i'm patronising you:
The term is borrowed from Christianity, and these two sentences (taken from WP) probably explain it best:
The general term is usually applied to the books that the Protestant Christian Church considered useful but not divinely inspired. ... During 16th-century controversies about the biblical canon, the word acquired a negative connotation, and has become a synonym for "spurious" or "false".
The meaning i'm using (and the one that Memory Alpha and other communities that define a 'canon' use) is the first one — something that contains useful and maybe even 'true' information, but that was not derived directly from a 'divinely inspired' source. What i consider 'divinely inspired' is anything that is seen or heard in the animated series (excluding a handful of necessary exceptions like names and real-life articles and stuff that was contradicted by ONW)  ♥ kine @ 06:14, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough - it may be worthwhile to write up a little note about what the word apocryphal means when we use it. Its absolutely true that 'apocrypha' has acquired a negative connotation, and anyone who doesn't know otherwise may leap to the conclusion that the pictures are somehow tainted (as opposed to a highly useful and accurate look at the ship in profile :)). Vympel 06:38, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Yeah there are a bunch of things like that that i should do (updating policy pages, creating help pages, &c.), but i'm always so cyclical, i get really focussed on one specific thing until i get tired of it, and then i move on to something else....
I also thought about renaming it 'Other media', but i don't think that's any better because things like OVA/ONW and LD/DVD differences aren't actually other media. :/  ♥ kine @ 07:51, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
How about "Licensed Material"? I'm implacable, I could do the replacing if you like. I've been doing the same thing, updating one ship page per day, for months now :) Vympel 08:24, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Yeah i've noticed. :p 'Licensed material' has the same problem, it isn't broad enough to include apocrypha that are actually contained within the animated material (like LD/DVD differences), plus it would also exclude the novels  ♥ kine @ 09:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Pages to create

Just as a little reminder for later (and maybe to add to the count on Special:WantedPages), we still need to create articles for the following ships that are listed here:

I believe there are also a handful of smaller vessels that are present in some of the FFCs that i didn't even grab the pictures for, and there are some generic ship types as well  ♥ kine @ 07:50, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

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