Talk:Past, Present, and Future (episode)

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Women

Yeesh... As a guy, I can't say japanese values when they come to women and wives are impressive. Looks like they never really made it past the 1960s in that respect. Greenhill worried about her cooking that much, and Yang's only answer (well-intentionned though it was) was that she had 'plenty of time to learn'... that scene was just one of several that made me... cringe. FPA Forever

I must admit, I am not satisfied by that scene as well. It is actually one of the few flaws of this series in my opinion. But don't forget the series was based on novels written almost 30 years ago in the 1980s and the portrayal of gender roles would have been fair for its day (at least in Japan). Alas, as Reinhard mentioned before, "perfection is a non-existent thing", so we will just have to live on with that portrayal. Glacierfairy 23:50, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

lol, you're barely even scratching the surface of the sexism in LOGH, frankly. It's a constant and pervasive issue with the entire series. It's just that the rest of it is so good...  ♥ kine @ 02:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

LOGH is patterned off history, particularly dynastic histories, and much of recorded history to date has been male dominated. Not arguing in favor of it, but it is the historical fact. Iracundus 03:56, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

That argument seems valid on the surface, but i find it less convincing than i did the first time i watched it.

A series about contemporary business executives would be male-dominated too, but those executives would have assistants, many of whom would be women, and even though they'd be limited to the androcentric reality of the business world, their depiction within the story would still be within the author's control. He'd get to decide, for example, what portions of the story would be seen from the women's perspective, or whether we ever got to see the women involved in something other than serving a man's interests.

In LOGH, the decision made by the author for those two points was 'almost none' and 'never', respectively.

And i think that that was probably unconscious on Tanaka's part; the depiction of Alliance women was similar despite it not being burdened with the same historical fetishism as the Empire, and (as Glacierfairy said) his approach there would have been considered typical for a Japanese guy in the '80s.  ♥ kine @ 04:55, 7 October 2012 (UTC)