Category talk:Technology

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Communication technology

Does anyone happen to have a good idea for what to call the FTL communication technology we see used? Or, rather, anyone have any thoughts on the creation of a communication technology page that just sort of generally details the various methods in Gineiden--carrier pigeons, courier ships, coded radio, laser beacons, and FTL video chats?Canary 11:46, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I think it would be acceptable to create a Communication article, and to have it link to stub articles for the specific methods (i'm sure we don't have enough to fill a full-sized article on them)  ♥ kine @ 20:48, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Flagships

I don't quite remember: is every flagship in the series unique? I'm pretty sure all of the Imperial flagships were unique classy ming I remember correctly--but what about the FPA side? Did we ever see two or more flagships with identical "geometry?" I think this might be one of those deliberate anachronisms that could use its own page... Somewhere.Canary 02:44, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

http://gineipaedia.com/wiki/Ajax_class_flagship Flagships were introduced by both sides at some point after the Battle of Dagon as fleet sizes continued to increase. These flagships, aside from having increased command and control capabilities, also served as prototypes and field tests of new technologies or design philosophies before wider introduction and mass production. The following is my own interpretation and speculation: The "standard" battleship designs of both sides were mass produced in the hundreds of thousands over many decades, but this also meant that they were not at the cutting edge of new technology and any feature in the design would have to be proven, cost effective, and long lasting enough to justify. Thus before any expensive and time consuming re-tooling for a mass production design, any features or design ideas would be first field tested in either flagships or limited run ships, such as the Leda II. The later Imperial flagships like the Valendown were part of an attempt to find a way to implement the innovations of the Brünhild at a lower cost suitable for a mass production ship, as the standard Imperial battleship was starting to show its age. The Alliance in particular after Amritsar seems to have shifted focus from producing Ajax class flagships to pumping out more standard ships, and experimenting with modifications to the standard battleships that served as squadron command ships. The Muffuese, Marduk, and Abai Geser were all examples of this. However the additional info on the Muffuese page says the Alliance ceased this practice after an unfavorable cost-benefit analysis. 11:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

I see. I was thinking more of the imperial flagships. In the Gaiden OVAs, during flashbacks, we see older flagships that appear to be identical to standard battleships (though IIRC each 730 Mafia had a unique flagship). But in the main OVA series, for the imperials at least, it seems that every flagship (at the fleet admiral level) is unique. More so than the countless Ajax variants, at least. The most similar flagship I can think of is the Koenig's Tiger, which resembles the fast battleship, but it still has slightly different design. It seems like several of the other flags hips are one-offs: the Brunhild and Barbarossa, obviously, but also Garga Falmul, Asgrimm, Audhumla, Beowolf, Forseti, Lubeck, Percival, etc.

Right now, all of these ships are classified as battleship's but with no corresponding page. I think they should either be reclassified as Imperial Flagship type/class with a page for that class, or each unique ship should have a unique class page--IE Brunhild-type battleship.

In other words, each ship needs to be categorized inside a class page, so that the various ship class pages encapsulate ALL of the ships instead of just some of them.Canary 08:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Garga Falmul is 2nd ship of the Jotunheim class, and Audhumla, Diarium, and Bergelmir seem to be similar as well, but the rest appear to be mostly single ships. So I do not see what purpose there would be in having a separate class page that just links to the single ship's page. It seems to be just redundant doubling of all the ship pages. 10:12, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't see any utility in reclassifying them personally. The flagships are battleships, 'flagship' just means that its where the Admiral keeps his flag. The Ulysses didn't go from battleship to flagship because Yang commanded from it. As to the Königs Tiger, its design only superficially resembles the standard fast battleship. Its over 100m longer, with more guns and more engines. Vympel 11:31, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

The point is to be comprehensive. There's no more or less utility in creating a class page for these flagships than there is for any of the other ship classes. Ideally, all of the nouns in an infobox should link to explanatory pages.Canary 01:20, 13 August 2014 (UTC)