Policy talk:Canon

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Parallel canon: the new LOGH anime adaptation

This seems like the best place to discuss the effect of the new anime series on how we handle canon. I'm thinking we should ignore any material in the new adaptation that is also in the old one (IE for an article about the Battle of Astarte, we cite the original OVA series instead of the new series, and only cite the new series if it adds additional content not found in the original OVAs. In the case of contradictory content... I don't know. Mention it in the Apocrypha section? Or create parallel pages (IE Galactic Empire (OVA) and Galactic Empire (TV)? Canary 08:46, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Our policy has always been that, when there are continuity errors/differences, the most recent wins. e.g., for the Battle of Astarte we use the events depicted in ONW rather than the ones from the OVA. The same applies to visuals — a few characters/buildings/whatever were re-designed for the DVD releases, and we use those as the primary source for any images.

I don't think it's clear how different the new series is going to be. If it's going to be a reboot on the order of the new Star Trek films, i think we need to consider having wholly separate articles (or at least separate sections) to differentiate between the two. But if it's going to be just a re-make, like ONW was, i think it's fine that we continue with our current policy.  ♥ kine @ 20:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

A question about the BD boxes

Since the Blu-Ray release is considered the most canon of all, and since they are expensive as hell, my question is quite simple: has anyone here watched the actual Blu-Ray Boxes to confirm that there are no updates on the spellings? I ask this question because in the Blu-Ray release, the official name subtitles are softsubs - so the BD rips that are available out there do not feature these subtitles. So, did anyone buy the BD boxes or just found extracted subtitles track? Thank you very much. Saga, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

I had actually started a project to acquire and verify ALL of the subtitles for ALL of the different releases. Unfortunately for the Blu-rays, this requires either the original discs or the raw disc images (which are like 10 gigs per episode), since nobody online has done rips with the original subs embedded. And, to add further insult, since Blu-ray discs use a fancy subtitle format that very few utilities support (and the one or two that do support it are Windows-based), i would have to manually comb through every single episode and note each subtitle.

Naturally, because of this, the project was pretty huge, and i unfortunately did not get far before i put it (indefinitely) on hold. However, i was able to verify the subtitles for 9 episodes from about the middle of the series, and almost all of them matched the raw DVD subs. You can see all of the subtitle work i've done on the following pages:

• User:Kine/CA DVD names (a complete computer-generated list of the name subs from Central Anime's DVD rips)
• User:Kine/DVD names (a near-complete semi-manually generated list of the original name subs embedded in the DVDs)
• User:Kine/Blu-ray names (a not-at-all complete manually generated list of the original name subs embedded in the Blu-rays)

I'd like to some day start this project again — i had even intended to do the original LaserDisc names as well — but right now i'm sort of outside of my LOGH phase, so i have no immediate plans for this. :x  ♥ kine @ 11:15, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

ONW and licensed works

Just realised this page needs to be fixed up. We don't consider licensed referenced works 'non-canon'. Also, ONW > OVA in terms of inconsistencies. Vympel 00:06, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

One of the changes i've just made was to put ONW ahead of the OVA in precedence — did i miss something?

I've added a note about vessel data; as far as i'm aware that is the only exception we've all agreed upon, rite?  ♥ kine @ 00:41, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah - of course, is there any other type of reference work? :)Vympel 00:47, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing - I thought the text (seperate from dimensions/crew) could also be incorporated, if we ever get it translated, with the same citation codes. Really, the same reasoning/principle applies, if there's any contradictions we can deal with them on a case by case basis.Vympel 00:50, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I dunno. I sort of think that question is still open; i am still wary of it because it seems like it'd invite anything into the (main bodies of the) articles :/

I guess let's address that when the time comes though; for now i've re-arranged it a bit more so that it should at least conform to how things are at this moment, especially with regards to names and secondary sources  ♥ kine @ 01:04, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I think discussion on this is premature. I think we should wait til the remake is released and then re-assess. If it turns out to be a severe abridging or have markedly different chronology then a parallel canon may be needed, but again we can first wait and see. Iracundus 22:32, 11 September 2014 (UTC)